Columbus Day

Plume's "Flavor of the Month" author, David Icke, explains the famous Merovingian Bloodline of Christof Colon (later called 'Columbus' after the Babylonian goddess)

The Merovingians

This bloodline and its offshoots includes a long line of pharaohs in ancient Egypt, including Rameses II (1295-1228 BC), who is considered to be the greatest pharaoh of all. He was his country's master architect (sacred geometry) and his name can be found on almost every ancient shrine. The gold mines of Nubia made him rich beyond the imagination. This bloodline also includes the extraterrestrial-human hybrids who ruled Sumer, Babylon, Greece, and Troy, and which, today, rule the world.

One common link in this bloodline is Philip of Macedonia (382-336BC),who married Olympias, and their son was Alexander the Great (356-323BC), a tyrant who plundered that key region of Greece, Persia, Syria, Phoenicia, Egypt, Babylon, the former lands of Sumer, and across into India before dying in Babylon at the age of 33. During his rule of Egypt he founded the city of Alexandria, one the greatest centers for esoteric knowledge in the ancient world. Alexander was taught by the Greek philosopher, Aristotle, who in turn was taught by Plato and he by Socrates. The bloodline and the hidden advanced knowledge have always gone together.

This key bloodline comes down through the most famous Egyptian queen, Cleopatra (60-30BC), who married the most famous Roman Emperor, Julius Caesar, and bore him a son, who became Ptolemy XIV. She also bore twins with Mark Anthony, who has his own connections to this line and its many offshoots; this bloodline also connects to Herod the Great, the "Herod" of the Jesus stories, and continues to the Roman Piso family who wrote the Gospel stories and invented the mythical figure called Jesus!!; the same bloodline includes Constantine the Great, the Roman Emperor who, in 325AD, turned Christianity, based on his ancestors' stories, into the religion we know today, and King Ferdinand of Spain and Queen Isabella of Castile, the sponsors of Christopher Columbus, who instigated the horrific Spanish Inquisition (1478-1834) in which people were tortured and burned at the stake for in any way questioning the basis of the religion their various ancestors had created.

More than that, the most used version of the Bible [King James Bible] was commissioned and sponsored by another strand in the same bloodline, King James 1st of England. Just a coincidence, nothing to worry about! The line of James, according to genealogy sources listed below, can be traced back to 1550 BC and beyond and includes many Egyptian pharaohs, including Rameses II.

The bloodline moved into France and northern Europe through the Franks and Meroveus or Merovee, who gave his name to the Merovingian bloodline, and it continues with the rest of the Merovingian clan like Clovis and the Dagoberts who connect into the elite secret society, the Priory of Sion and the Rennes-le-Chateau "mystery" in Languedoc [Provence], Southern France. Many books have been written recently which claim that the Merovingians are the bloodline of "Jesus".

Some of these authors have just been mistaken, others have blatantly sought to confuse and mislead. The Merovingians are a key bloodline, yes, but it has nothing to do with Jesus, who was invented by an earlier family in the same line, the Pisos. Authors like Sir Laurence Gardner (Bloodline of the Holy Grail and a favorite of Nexus Magazine and its owner, Duncan Roads) MUST know this and yet they still connect the Merovingians to "Jesus". Why??

The Merovingians were Goddess Diana worshippers, as are so many in this line to the present day. They founded the city we call Paris and on one of their former sites of Diana ritual, Princess Diana was murdered in the Pont d'Alma tunnel (meaning "bridge or passage of the Moon Goddess") on August 31st, 1997. As The Biggest Secret points out, the Windsors, another Merovingian bloodline, were very much involved in this ritual murder.

From the Merovingians, this bloodline's connections to the present day include: Charlemagne (742-814), who ruled as Emperor of the West in the Holy Roman Empire; a stream of French kings, including Robert II, Philip Ist, II and III, and Louis Ist, II, VI, VII, VIII, VIIII, XIII, IX, XV, and XVI. The latter married Marie Antoinette of this same bloodline and both were executed in the French Revolution. But they produced the son who became Daniel Payseur, who was taken to the United States where he became the secret force behind the Morgan and Carnegie empires and owned vast amounts of real estate, banking, and industrial holdings.

This bloodline also connects to the de Medici family which supported Christopher Columbus and produced Catherine de Medici, the Queen of France who died in 1589. Her doctor was Nostradamus: It includes Rene d'Anjou, Duke of Lorraine, and the House of Lorraine which employed Nostradamus and Christopher Columbus. The bloodline relatives of the de Medicis and the House of Lorraine, Queen Isabella of Castile and King Ferdinand of Spain, were also sponsors of Columbus when he "discovered" the Americas.

This bloodline also includes the Habsburgs, the most powerful family in Europe under the Holy Roman Empire; Geoffrey Plantagenet and the Plantagenet royal dynasty in England; King John, who signed the Magna Carta; King Henry Ist, II, and III, who were extremely close to the Knights Templar, as was King John; Mary Stuart and the Stuart Dynasty, including King James Ist of England, sponsor of the King James version of the Bible; King George Ist, II, and III; Edward Ist, II, and III, Queen Victoria; Edward VII; George V and VI; Queen Elizabeth II; Prince Charles and Elizabeth's other offspring, Anne, Andrew and Edward; Princes William and Harry from Charles' "marriage" to Princess Diana; US Presidents, George Washington, John Adams, John Quincy Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and George Bush are all named in the charts as strands of this bloodline; it was passed on to the year 2000 US presidential favorite, George W. Bush Jr., and his brother, Jeb Bush, the Governor of Florida.

In fact if you go deeply enough into the genealogical research you will find that ALL the presidents are from this line. Genealogical sources, like the New England Historical Genealogical Society and Burkes Peerage, have shown that 33 of the 42 presidents [up] to Clinton are related to Charlemagne and 19 are related to England's Edward III, both of whom are of this bloodline. A spokesman for Burkes Peerage, the bible of royal and aristocratic genealogy based in London, has said that every presidential election since and including George Washington in 1789 has been won by the candidate with the most royal genes. Now we can see how and why. United States presidents are not chosen by ballot, they are chosen by blood!

This same bloodline also includes key Scottish families like the Lords of Galloway and the Comyns; Marie-Louise of Austria, who married Napoleon Bonaparte; Kaiser Wilhelm II, the king of Germany at the time of the First World War; and Maximilian, the Habsburg emperor of Mexico, who died in 1867. On and on it goes into country after country. This bloodline connects into every surviving royal family in Europe, including King Juan Carlos of Spain and the Dutch, Swedish, and Danish royal lines.

Plume Adresses An Obama Supporter

He just couldn't help it. What started as just a pleasant stroll through the digital representations of all his surviving friends, family, associates, and acquaintances, a collection built by that magical algorithm, on the world-changing site called Facebook, with every intention to 'keep it light,' turned into a lecture. (for which he didn't even charge lol)

 

The Professor has told himself to be understanding during this time, known as 'election time,' from now until November of next year, when another Freemason with the proper royal blood/DNA is appointed-----I mean, elected. If not, the political rhetoric will most certainly drive him to actually become what most already believe he is---insane.

 

But, that will have to begin tomorrow. Here is a response to his FB friend, Eric, who is a Philadelphia radio DJ and who most always incites very interesting discussions......sometimes too interesting.

How many times must I say it, Eric, my man, my mellow....O-bomb-a is a puppet. So was Bush. They all carry out the agenda of the 'ruling' class, the 'illuminati' if you will, the royal bloodlines (of which Obama is a part of, being a cousin to Dick Cheney), that date back to Medeival Europe, back to Alexander the Great, back to ancient Babylon.

The bottomline, though these people who call themselves 'democrats' and want to pretend this guy represents them and not the people who put him there simply won't acknowledge, is that O-bomb-a promised everyone he would bring every soldier home--this after he condemned it as wrong and evil over and over again. YET, here we are three years into his term and there are still almost 50,000 troops there, he has increased troop strength in Aghanistan, he has about 1600 soldiers' deaths on his hands and who knows how many Iraqis killed, maimed, left without homes.

 

You know the bit, but we love to conveniently forget about that and talk more bullshit "healthcare" proposals. FOH  I'll tell you the healthcare plan, same as always, get people to buy medicine, simple as that.

Now, recently he has promised (once again) to widdle down to 3000 troops by the end of the year, even though he clearly said 'ALL,'  and so the dems are running around saying that he has cut it to 3000, bullshit! He has a full load over there firing away. I will eat my wallet if there are only 3000 troops there at the end of his term. I would like to know how a mother of a soldier who was killed in that quagmire over there, three years after voting for this guy on the premise of ending the Iraq war,  feels about healthcare.....or Gay marriage or the f---in economy. lol 

 

Underneath all of the left wing talking points, which have been made ever popular after the Bush presidency (which was all in the design), and the fact that it is "The First Black President" (even though he's about as black as soap), is the plain fact that the mission has remained exactly the same as it has been---ever since the Rothschild family created the state of Israel out of thin air in a movement called "Zionism" where he basically said (under the guise of 'world leaders' of course) that GOD told the Jews it was their land. Period. No questions asked, and after the holocaust (again part of the design), sympathy was sky high everyone felt they deserved it.

 

So under that bullshit he started a marketing campaign to get American and European "Jews" (and their $) to the new Israel, where they receive first class treatment over the native Jews that were there for a thousand years, living in Palestine in peace!!

 

Let me summarize: the JEWS that WERE living in Palestine, and simply called themselves 'Palestinians', were pushed aside in 1948 to make room for Rothschild's "Zionist" Jews; the Palestinians were completely driven out and "terrorized" and there you have Israel.

 The ends to all of this, an agenda that O=bomb-a is driving full steam ahead, is control of the entire region and its resources, not to mention good old war profiteering...and the ends to all of THAT, is very simply Global Domination, and they are very close. It could probably be thwarted if we stop the ridiculous left-right hamster wheel that have us on.

Don't take this a s a dis on "your boy" but the fact is that, much like his predecessor, who he now hails as a 'great American,' he is responsible for a body count that puts guys like Manson and Bundy to SHAME!  My  (super left-wing) mom says , "well, I don't know what it takes to get 50k troops home." hahaha  Put them on a fucking plane!  lol  Peace my brother

To complete the idea (and since he 'promises' this to be his last attack on those playing the game called "royal democracy")Plume decided to pull out all of his bells and whistles and supplemented the comment with a small ten minute video. It is fun to watch. lol (not really)

So many leaders, including U.S. Presidents and even Hitler, spoke about the "powers that be" often, but of course, much of it flew right over our heads.

1913 - President Woodrow Wilson publishes "The New Freedom" in which he reveals: "Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the U.S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."

Let's Clear Up This Terrorism Thing

We are now ten years into this "war on terror" and still, as Americans, we know as much about this so called enemy as we did on the day we were told they destroyed the Twin Towers. Who are these psychopaths who 'hijacked Islam' and 'want to rid the world of  western infidels.' -- or something like that? Why didn't they 'hate' us this much before, let's say, World War II? Coincidentally, they began to discover oil in the region around that time, so maybe that has something to do with it. 

I think it's about time we identify who it is, exactly, that is causing all of this trouble; we need to know who to fear, who is truly the 'axis of evil,' so I'm going to clear things up. In short, the antagonist is Israel. They are the 'bad guys' in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but that doesn't mean the Jews. The Sephardic Jews, who are a 'second tier' citizen in the new Israel, lived about a thousand years in peace alongside Arabs in the region, before the real problem moved in.

I'm going to skip the part about the Nazi's, because you're not ready, and go right to the subsequent move by the all-powerful Rothschild family, known as Zionism, the creation of Israel, their own personal country. So, the Israeli population is an apartheid, made up of the real Jews, who were already there back when Americans had no idea who they were, and the Zionist Jews, who flooded in with the Rothschilds after they manipulated the creation of a powerful country one day, sixty years ago. 

These new people, who came from Europe and America, took over as the dominating class and the leadership in Israel, backed by their powerful friends that make up the US and British governments, have no empathy for the Palestinian people. This is why every Israeli PM is so blatantly racist towards them. They condemn 'terrorism' and receive support from idiots when Ariel Sharon was even part of their own terror groups, like Hagana and Lehi, that basically drove close to a million Palestinians from their homes and continue to bomb, torturing, and murder them today.

OK. At this point, you either knew that already, you don't care, you're curious to learn more, or you think I am an 'anti-semite' (a made up, zionist word because they arent even semites), liberal, anti-american asshole. But at least you heard it. lol  So, in summary:

Israel is a country that was formed by the powerful Rothschild family, and it's leadership is part of the same network of families that make up our 'neo-con' leadership and British royalty and PM. That entity, not to be confused with the Jews of that area, are the real terrorists and are the root of all the "anti-US" sentiment. It is NOT because we have Reality TV and pornography.

Be Safe!     

The Blog's New Direction -- Words From The Professor

As he continues the tireless construction of his new album, which he considers to be of great importance, dismissing his earlier 32oz catalog as 'recreational' and targeting the infamous year 2012 for its release, Professor Plume (who is operating under a host of pseudonyms throughout the project, including Thorton Melon, Oscar Wild, producer Muddy Bottoms, among others.), takes a moment to address the new 'direction' of this blog, in preparation for what has been tentatively dubbed, The Awakening:

Hello to all,

For those who enjoyed some earlier, more frivolous writings here, like the still-unanswered letter to Brandy's mother, forgive me. We still hold the art of Sarcasm in the highest regard possible; however, it had to take a back seat to more pressing issues. Even I can only juggle a certain amount of balls before they come crashing to the ground.

For others, who have enjoyed the newer, more serious themes here, such as the enslavement of the human race at the hands of a satanic illuminati, namely a handful of interbreeding families who are behind world affairs, namely the U.S. government and Zionist Israel, thank you for the comments, for and against. Again, I apologize for not following up, and again I blame other endeavors, namely the rebirth of SF, which will be no secret here shortly. lol

With that said, I encourage you to at least peek in every now and then, as I plan to breathe some life into this page, just to catch you up on what I have been researching in the 'off-hours.' The posts will basically pick up where we left off, speaking about the bible and looking at it with a rational mind, but it will take you SO much deeper. I want to share what I've learned since the day I was suddenly inspired to question a religion, into which I had been fully indoctrinated and injected with the full dose of fear that it is designed to instill.

That last sentence is important, and although I've mentioned it several times, it always bears repeating. I did not just 'decide' to begin writing inflammatory things about the government, religion, and life in general. My alter-ego, Your Dali Mama, has been on a spiritual journey for some time now (as you can follow in his sporadic writings here) and all roads led to here. I'm hoping you will feel more comfortable at least knowing that I have no prior agenda. We'll see.

So, I only ask to keep your mind open, way open, from this point on. What I am going to do is try to simply start from the beginning by purging my emails and other posts/messages that I have sprinkled around the web (mainly to my headstrong mother, as you know. lol), in regards to this topic, to catch up. I will also be regurgitating information from different people, and I'll give them credit when I do.

But, know that I am just telling the story from my perspective, combining years’ worth of reading in this golden age of research, and I will never blindly repeat something without verifying it thoroughly, of course. I am not taking credit for any of the groundbreaking work that many have put into uncovering this; however, the way I see it, we cannot have too many people trying to explain the truth. If, for some reason, I can get through to one person when another fails, it's worth it. 
 

Instead I would point you in a more spiritual direction (NOT a religious one). Basically, look inside yourself, think, meditate, question things, lose your fear....etc. Many different 'new age' teachers are writing great books these days, referring also to great literary works by enlightened ones throughout history. (Unlike Icke), I feel Buddhism and other Eastern philosophies are excellent guides, but basically this is all one knowledge, I call truth. Once you tap into the truth, it all makes perfect sense.

Before I start posting, you could ask yourself a few questions to warm up to things:

Why is money so important to everyone throughout history? It turns humans to animals, yet it appeared alongside "civilization" in the history books. What turned humans so thirsty for money and material things?

Who decides what gets to stay in the bible and what is irrelevant?

Why are we so warlike, bringing destruction and killing in great numbers, all since we became "civilized?"  Why do we have the mentality that we must conquer territory? Who decided what "rules" we need to live by? Who decided that as soon as a child knows what is going on in the world, they are to be stripped from their families and taught about 'their' history (from a book written by who?), taught how to act 'right,' and exposed to laws and punishment, and basically 'bred' to be good 'cattle?' 

More importantly, why did ALL of these things that still bind us today, like language, government, politics, school (indoctrination), war, conquest, ...religion...etc. all instantaneously "sprout" out of literally nothing, as was the case in ancient Sumer and Babylon. 

Think about that for a minute. According to history, the human race lived for over a million years as various forms of homo-whatever, which incidentally was probably far more advanced than we are today if you think about it. Have we not already begun to phase out writing on paper, in favor of storing information digitally. This entire blog exists only as 1's and 0's, the computer's binary code. 

So, imagine that we were a thousand years advanced from today, in an inevitably digital world, where money and books are stored digitally, when a catastrophe, such as a great flood, destroyed the planet. How would the survivors who returned to rebuild civilization, possibly access the world wide web? They couldn't. The entire Internet would exist, full of "ancient advanced knowledge," just outside of our consciousness. Now, imagine a group of ex-microsoft employees were among them. They would have an edge. The analogy is loose, but it works perfectly.

Given that scenario, we can see it is very possible that what we call the beginning of "civilization" was actually starting over. It may or may not be accurate, although Icke and many others believe that to be the case. What is accurate is that following a million years of "homo-evolution," in which humans survived as peaceful hunter-gatherers, with no sign of a hierarchy, evolved almost overnight into the gaudy, ritualistic, warlike, territorial, indoctrinating, god(and devil)-worshipping, homo-sapien sapiens. Interesting....and baffling to most historians.

Stay Tuned

Thank You

Do you not think that what is happening in Libya, Syria, Egypt is a good thing? Mom Asks....

The professor's biggest supporter and antagonist, his mother, Mrs. Rosa, asks for his opinion of the recent uprisings in Libya. The blatant reverse psychology in the first sentence, including the DM reference, only served to ensure just that. 

Don't mean to send you off on a rant (ala Dennis Miller) but  I was curious about something (and besides, I need to practice my typing skills). Do you not think that what is happening in Libya, Syria, Egypt is a good thing? It kind of reminds me of the American Revolution where people decided to take matters into their own hands......it seems as if the people have taken it upon themselves to overthrow dictators and take control of their government, which to me, seems like a good thing. I understand the caveats, that is who exactly is taking over, are we trading one dictatorship for another, is it a bid by the powers to be to gain the oil, but I tend to remain optimistic about the whole thing. You know me, always wanting to believe the good in people. Anyway, I am interested in your opinion.

Love, Mom

 
For the record, I have decided not to waste my time following this story, figuring that a new world order is inevitable, and unfortunately injustices will occur around the globe that I can't  stop. To answer your question, however, I think it has all been orchestrated as part of the plan to control the Middle East region moving forward. Let me explain:

It is not only documented to death, but it also makes all the sense in the world that the group of powerful Englishmen who settled this country and wrote the constitution have been in power since day one. FACT: All of the US presidents are related!!! They are all descended from English royalty. ALL OF THEM!! Here's the link.Wikipedia.  

This is supposed to be a democracy, a model for the world, and you mean to tell me that we have "democratically elected" all family members?! How can they tell me we have a pure democracy going on here? lol From Washington to Quincy Adams to Jackson, no one else had a chance, as if they were just taking turns, two-terms each, so they could get everything in place, like set up the first central bank and so and on...MY question is WHEN did these people relinquish that power? What year did it happen that they signed things over to "the American people?" When did they hand over the keys to the White House? Answer: They didn't! And why would they? Would you? In school, they tell you that you could be president. That's not true. It's a very select group....very select.

We are talking about powerful families, like the Bushes, the Rockerfellas, in cahoots with their friends, the middle east OIL countries, the saudi royals, the UAB.....I don't know, nor should I have to, all of the "relatives" who make up the group, but they are these people, direct descendants of our founding fathers, who always remain in key positions of government, enough to control it. They have been called 'illuminati,' but that's really just a generic term for such a faction and not necessarily the original Knights Templar. 

(What I'm trying to hammer home, and have been unsuccessful in thus far, is that Barack Obama, like Bush before him, IS NOT the most powerful man in the world, not even close. He is a good-looking, well-spoken politician with the necessary bloodlines to be president, Dick Cheney's cousin, actually).

This aristocracy, which is what it is, is just a little over 2 centuries old (That's about 9 generations, not too long at all really). During that time, they have mastered the art of social engineering and propaganda, of course all backed by the good ol' bible, (that good book that's been keeping people in line for 2000 years!). They control the money flow through the federal reserve, using a brilliant system of debt, interest rates, and income tax, all made possible in one off-season afternoon with a bill pushed by Sen. Aldrich,  in-law to Mr. Rockerfella and fellow 'blue blood.' 

There are many documentaries that show exactly how the two work succinctly (income tax and fed. reserve) to form what is a never-ending, "debt-based" system, controllable by moving the interest rates and the supply of money itself. They were also completely responsible for the great depression (just read about it).

With all that said, I am almost certain that if I did begin to dig into this story of the Libya uprising, then it would confirm my belief that this powerful group I have been speaking of has a vision for the Middle East, not the people, but the land that has been fought over forever and just happens to still be rich with resources. I believe they were tired of rogue dictators like Saddam and Quadafi, fellow oil tycoons in direct competition, who wouldn't 'play ball' the way they wanted them to (and that could be anything. We know that Saddam just didn't like his oil business foe, who used our military to flex his own family muscle.) 

These are the guys they paint as psychos and label public enemy #1. You remember  McCarthy-ism; I remember the evil commies, the evil Ayotollah, Manuel Noriega, Quadafi, Saddam, all crazy men who needed to be stopped. We have been meddling in that region, playing double agent, ever since they struck oil after the war; before that you never heard a peep out of the area. We cared about as much as we care about Africa, which has been riddled with "madmen" dictators and oppression. Do Africans not deserve "democracy?"
 
Follow our actions post- 9-11. We immediately went for Afghanistan---not for oil but for their geographical location to build a pipeline, an important component in the business of oil trade to Eastern Europe and an ongoing subject of conflict in the area. It was also the reason we were supporting Osama Bin Laden throughout the 80s against Russian invasion. Not to mention their enormous poppy fields, which had been largely shut down under the Taliban regime, but are up and flowing again in peak numbers thanks to us.
 

After that, of course, we went for the oil; this is interesting. Think of the villians we have seen in that area over the last few decades, many we just named. Think of the countries which have "caused trouble" for us, the perennial axis of evil.
Now, here is a list of the most oil-rich countries in the middle east, in order. Out of 30 countries in the region, 18 of them produce oil.: (click here for actual numbers)

1. Saudi Arabia--- Number 1 and our number 1 friend. They are VIP here. Prince bashir is more powerful than any senator.
2. Iran- well, well-- They wont play ball with us and are therefore THE AXIS OF EVIL
3. Iraq-- coming in at number 3, but arch-nemesis to Sir Bush, also a member of the axis of evil and a true madman that we have rightfully disposed of. We freed those poor people. They will now have a choice between TWO leaders like us. (Of course,  both will be very friendly towards America when it comes to the oil)
4. Kuwait--good peoples- They play ball--and in return we are their bodyguard whenever they decide to slant drill into Iraq.
5. United Arab Emerites-  also very nice people. 
6. Libya--Has refused to play ball with Bush since 80s and is therefore a true psycho madman. We must support the (very america-friendly) rebellion and free those poor persecuted people.

Those are the big six; after that the numbers start to get thin, but rounding out the top 15 are countries you have heard of like Egypt, Syria, Sudan, and Yemen, all in the news, going hot and cold.  But not every country in the middle East has oil. Here is a list of the oil-less countries in the region and tell me when the last time was that they were mentioned at all for anything. lol

• Bahrain
• Cyprus
• Comoros
• Djibouti
• Eritrea
• Mauritania
• Morocco
• Somalia-- you know how much we gave a crap about them.
• Then there's Israel and Jordan
  

Tunesia was last on the list of countries that HAVE oil, with only a small fraction of the others. They are located right next to Libya on the map, but they are in bed only with France when it comes to oil, have limited exports and really have nothing to offer. Just last year, they revolted against their prime minister/dictator who was a corrupt man and had been pillaging the country's wealth, solely for the gain of his family for the last 20 years. Not only was it a successful revolution, but it was done peacefully, through demonstrations, the real American Way, good over evil, a perfect example of the morals we are supposedly trying bring to that region. 

Did you hear about it?  How many times have you heard the word 'Tunesia' on the news? lol

So anyway, yes, I believe this was totally provoked (most likely through what we hear them cal human intelligence? It is a classic tactic. Any government agency worth a damn can pull it off. 

As far as how do I feel about us, in one way or another, removing these country's governments and replacing them with their own personal versions of American democracy and capitalism? Hey, misery loves company!!! lol  Just kidding. The sad fact is that, in thirty years, kids will know nothing about Iraq. Saddam Hussein and George W Bush will be answers on a history test (that's IF they still have tests then), and all of these families will continue to rule, generation after generation.

My question for the future is what will happen when the NEW powers (Bill Gates, The Google guy) and the old powers (Rockefella, Rothschilds) clash?

Trying To Explain To Myself One More Time

After having what we would call, a moment of clarity, Professor Plume scrambles to the first pen or keyboard he could find to try, yet again, to explain it....mainly to himself. 

We are eternally whole. We are one with "God" or the Divine or the Source...
As soon as we enter the physical world, we begin to disconnect from the Source, as a result of the evolution of human consciousness, which has surpassed all species that we know of. The disconnect was a product of our natural survival skills, namely memory and fear, which create emotions. (It is accepted throughout the science community that emotions are learned not hereditary. It is really a whole subject in itself, yet it is actually simple: In our natural quest to be complete and reconnected to source, we also fear the thought of loss. All negative emotions, worry, fear...etc are due to a fear of losing something that we have formed a relationship with.)

In other words, you could use the atom comparison. We are, in fact, made up of atoms. Atoms are constantly looking to form bonds. Everything in nature looks to form bonds. The difference is that only humans, being the "smartest" of all the animals, are afraid to then break those bonds, as is also natural.

This disconnect at birth, which is called 'Original Sin' by some, is the evolved consciousness of man that allows for reasoning or rational deduction, that tries to make choices based on memory (and fear), using our misguided sense of reality, rather than just DO. This is also called our free will, and it is what makes us "superior" to all other animals.

From the time we are born with this OS, free will, disconnect...etc, until what some call the "age of reasoning," when we begin to be thoroughly conditioned by society, is a period that is magical to most of us. We remember that pure innocence and long to go back, but alas, "it's just not the way it is." Well, actually it is exactly the way it is.

The way it isn't is the world we are then thrust into, when our ego is fully developed. The ego has many names, and it appears everywhere. You could called it the Devil, with horns and a pitchfork, the false self, the flesh, the earth, hell, eternal suffering, temptation, evil, sin......it all mirrors our constant desire to form relationships, to be whole once again. It's just natural that when you remove something, it tries to reconnect. It is just a fundamental truth, and it's obvious when you think of us, a fish out of water, yearning for relationship with God.

Only, we don't know God.

So, there you have the idea of false gods. It could be anything, a car, a job, a partner. When we say something is our 'god,' it doesn't mean they are literally worshiped, but actually they are. We never feel complete, but we always say to ourselves, "If I could get that job, I'll be straight!" or "Wait until I get that house (girl), haircut, whatever, then I'll do this and that." But these are all dead ends. It is the Devil, the ego.....sins of the flesh. Sex, gambling, drugs, narcissism, workaholism, perfectionism.....It is all just us looking for a relationship. If you read about Adam and Eve or Lucifer, if you read any tale of the beginning, by any culture, at any time, and you can see parallels to these fundamental things.

Here's the best part (or worst part). Usually, at some point, we all come to a realization that it's time to seek God, what we are truly missing. In fact, it was known in the beginning what we must do to be whole. The earliest man to come into this advanced state of consciousness (which we just mentioned, gives us the elevated sense of memory and fear, which causes us to create emotions, such as greed, jealousy....etc...all the way to war and death, basically the Devil, Hell, his dominion here on Earth,) knew exactly what had happened and what was needed to prevent it. These are our ancient adages, our ancient wisdoms, magic, alchemy, going back to Egypt and Babylon...etc.

BUT, the Devil, or the ego, the false self, basically the dark side of man is very powerful. From this fear of loss grew greed, and to be powerful and wealthy enough to never experience it was the motivating force. The ones at the top knew they must control the masses. So, EVERY SINGLE GOVERNING INSTITUTION used the same, obviously effective, model, using these fundamental truths and wisdoms, tweaking them in a way that fits the particular time and region, while manipulating them to be contradictory to their enemies, as we see in the eternal Islam/Christianity/Judaism conflicts, involving the same fertile region, with religions that intertwine just perfectly enough to cause trouble for the other, or at least give a reason to.

Basically, the powers that be and always were will NEVER relinquish power. I don't mean Sadam Hussein. I mean the ones above him, above the US, Russia, China....the ones that rule the WORLD, and always have.. They KNOW about man's constant longing to be reconnected with God, the Source, the Divine, the Light, so they are conveniently right there, with a "way" to heaven.

There are many, many different ways, divided among many governments (and often customized). They are set up perfectly to perform the following functions:

In no particular order and not limited to,

1.Keep us divided, worshipping different "Gods," in different ways, with different rules, that make one person more righteous than the next. A great example would be the gay marriage debate, perfect to keep our collective eye off of what they are doing.

2. Keep us paralyzed by the fear of God. We certainly don't want to burn in hell eternally, so we walk a constant tight-rope with our morality. We live in fear...(worse fear like Bing Crosby's kids. lol j/k)

3. Great money-maker!!!!

4. Keep us from really seeking the truth, since we are already registered with the church, our spiritual work is taken care off. Most people believe their church donations have bought them a ticket to the after-life, (at least coach.) This way, they don't have to worry about too many of us being awake.

OK, here's the final summary:

We are born disconnected and always yearn to be back with the Source, where we belong, where all things are, but we are "tempted by the Devil" with all of the other possible relationships that will fill the void, but really won't, like sex, drugs, money, power.

As we all know, these relationships always end in either death, where the person has gone so mad searching that it becomes fatal, or in the realization that, in fact, these are NOT the way to being complete, God is. (How many times have we seen that play out and asked "how the hell could someone be unhappy with all that money?" Of course, no matter how many people we see in tears telling us that material wealth isn't the way, we still want to try it out for ourselves!)

When it does happen though, instead of being shown the true way to the Divine, the governments, throughout time, have hijacked the ancient truths and have set up institutions known as religion, which are basically a branch of government, an extension of their control and nothing more, to give us the illusion of a true spiritual search, while providing all the benefits mentioned above.



And here we are. 

Also, I will say that, like all of the pleasures sought by the ego, the government sponsored religions can certainly provide a measure of relief, and like those other pleasures can often be abused. It is certainly very possible that this abuse will eventuality lead to the Divine on its own, somehow, if you are receptive enough to the lessons.


Well, the light seems to be dimming, but this is positive stuff, really.

The Professor meets Pro Warez Arguments

While roaming about the beautiful, anarchical matrix known as the Internet, the Professor stumbled upon a forum, modestly called The Best Forum Ever, where the following arguments in favor of using warez, or pirated software, was posted.

The morality of copyright infringement is also disputed, with members of warez groups often viewing their actions as "socially positive". Proponents of warez software might argue the following:

1. Difficulty of implementing copyright enforcement – Warez groups believe that they are allowed to continue their activities due to the nature of Internet globalization, inconsistent worldwide laws and technical difficulties in tracking warez groups.

2. Difference between copyright infringement and conventional property theft – Cracking software is different from theft or stealing other people's property, namely, it does not deprive the use of the software from the original owner. For example, if Alice steals Bob's car, Bob will no longer be able to use that car; but if Alice copies Bob's software, Bob can still use that software with no trouble.

3. Difference between legally wrong and morally wrong – Although copyright laws state that it is illegal to crack people's software, there is a difference between "legally wrong" and "morally wrong". To them, it is indeed morally right to do so. It is beneficial, at least to the users of warez.

4. Criticism of copyright laws – Some warez groups may regard copyright as harmful to society. For example, it hinders creation and over-protects the rights of copyright holders. Sometimes the protection is even ridiculous or unnecessary. For instance, it is ridiculous to regard "a legitimate backup copy of a purchased CD" or "a format transfer of music (eg. from * .wav to * .mp3)" as illegal in some countries. Also, current copyright law can extend copyright for centuries, and many feel that older works should have entered public domain.

5. Criticism of copyright holders – There are various reasons, including: some warez groups may hate copyright holders or their companies. They distribute software as a form of revenge possibly because they have had bad experiences with the software company(s). The copyright holder is unjust or greedy in that it exploits its own staff.

6. Philosophy of freebies – All software should be distributed free of charge. Reasons include: the effect/cost of creating software is just one-off. It is wrong to charge every copy of the software.

7. High price – Since copyright holders sell their products and services at an unacceptably high prices, users should not pay for these companies or holders.

8. Perceived injustice of the poor – This point is similar to the above reasons. Warez groups feel it is bad not to share products and services with those who could not afford to obtain it otherwise. These groups compare themselves to Robin Hood.

9. Full trial before buy – Some software owners only give function-limited demo or do not give demo at all. Users need to fully trial them before deciding whether to buy it or not.

10. Deprivation of individual rights – Laws such as the Digital Millennium Copyright Act may also contribute to the motivations of those involved in warez, as user rights are increasingly threatened in the United States and rights holders attempt to lock out consumers.

11. Increase market share – Companies such as Adobe, Borland, and Microsoft have gained big market shares due to vast numbers of warez users, such as college students and working people who adopted applications as they were readily available. Later when they find out that the software is useful, these people purchase legitimate licenses for future uses. This helps companies with software familiarity and dominancy. (Some, such as supporters of the Open Source movement, consider this a negative.)

12. Victimless crime – Many "warez" users only ever obtain what they can get for free in the first place. For example, a person who is interested in accessing a song they once heard may not be prepared to buy the entire CD to get it, or may only be interested in a program for a trivial matter that would not justify spending large amounts of money on it. If the warez user truly never would have purchased the product, it is argued that the copyright holder does not incur a loss. Generally, a "warez" user would not have purchased the product, or a similar product in the absence of the "warez" option, and would have opted for a freeware or open-source product, or simply have gone without.

13. Monopoly and cartel strategies – Many companies use their position in the market to ensure that they have full control over it, making it impossible for other companies to provide alternatives. That privileged position is then used to inflate the prices. Some consider this itself as a result of piracy.

14. Lack of production – Particularly in the piracy of older video games, often people will pirate games or TV shows that are no longer in production but have not become public domain. While illegal, not even the company that made the product is losing money directly.

15. Superior Product – Warez is often perceived as superior in quality to legally licensed software. In the process of software cracking, the cracker often will remove restrictive or other undesirable features, such as Digital Rights Management, product activation, resource limits, hardware limits, nag screens, reporting back to the manufacturer, or time-limited features. By adding copy protection to software, a manufacturer may actually create a perverse incentive to pirate the product, as the pirate product contains fewer limitations or annoyances than the genuine product.

16. Regional Issues – Consumers often cannot purchase the software they want at any price due to regional lockout, or simple lack of availability in their specific geographical region. Furthermore, authorities in certain jurisdictions have ruled that regional restrictions violate principles of free trade and fair use. In these jurisdictions, the use of warez or bypass devices, such as modchips, may result from a citizen's desire to reclaim consumer rights under applicable laws or administrative regulations.

17. Privacy – As Internet availability becomes more widespread, a greater number of software titles are relaying information back to the manufacturer. Due to the complex legal and technical jargon present in End-User License Agreements, many users are unable to properly give informed consent to such disclosure. In addition, some users feel that modern corporate privacy practices facilitate privacy invasions, aggressive marketing, telemarketing, and spam. The incentive to pirate such software arises out of the fact that pirate software is almost always devoid of features which relay personally identifiable information to third parties, or serve interests other than that of the user.

18. Rejection of Capitalist/Consumer Society – A smaller number of warez advocates base their behavior upon a fundamental rejection of the nature of the Capitalist system that creates (and creates the perceived need for) and sells the products in question. While the knee-jerk reaction to this argument is that such users shouldn't thus be using the software at all, these politically-minded users often cite reasons of protest and/or the fallacy of anyone being able to realistically walk away from life and society regulated by the companies and governments that enforce the systems being opposed herein. 

Naturally, he couldn't resist and joined the discussion, which was about even, for and against. He didn't realize, however, that the original post was made two years ago and immediately following his remark, which was naturally meant to inflame, as is vintage Plume, a forum regular called for the "old" thread to be closed. The Professor didn't take that very well, and he proceeded to kick up a small firestorm, and although he will point out that he never once strayed from the original topic, it led to him being thoroughly lambasted by an unruly mob for two days. Plume later commented that the whole thing had been "a pleasant surprise."

Following were his comments, raw and unedited. (The entire encounter can be seen here.)

Why would you close a thread right after someone comments on it?? Because it's old? It's not like a current events topic. Not to mention, the dates are screwed up on this site anyway. It said everyone on the thread posted on the same day in 09. To call for a thread to be closed like that is like shutting the door in someone's face. lol If you don't agree with the post, say why.

That is similar to the sites that "debunk" all of these so called, "conspiracy theories," with a bunch of paper thin arguments but then only allow "approved" comments. Maybe, it was inadvertent, but for the BEST forum ever, if someone responds to a topic, that means it's interesting to someone. It's not like the board is overflowing with posts. lol I think there's plenty of bandwidth to even accommodate "older" posts.

So, anyway the topic was a good one. The pro-warez arguments. My take was :

I love #2, also, SHM. Nice post. and 6,7,8,10 but my favorite out of all of them is 12! Read that all you hall-monitor, self-righteous, defenders of the earth. Worry about your own house. You're just afraid of doing anything that the government tells you is bad. READ NUMBER TWELVE and stop being a little b----. And for the other spineless yellow-bellies that are afraid of their own shadow, talking about (in a little girlie voice) " Oh I'm gonna get a virus...."" Read number 15. Jerks. Tattle=tale, middle management, snitches..........

And I will add that I can see something to the effect of licensing for commercial use only. Meaning that if you use the software to make money, as in a business, then you need a license and that is how these poor software "companies" which are actually a few guys writing a program lol (It's not like they have factories set up across the country with hundreds of workers at each distributing these programs to local stores. Many do it as a hobby.) make money and, might I add, are compensated very well for their work, if it's worth a crap. Most of the time their demos are so limited, you can't really know what the hell you're buying until it's too late anyway. Then they 'upgrade' every five minutes, which means they tweak their program a bit, based on thousands of emails explaining exactly what to tweak, and charge a whole new fee for it. Although they are nice enough to give some kind of "deal" to upgrade.

And they are so paranoid about squeezing every dollar they can out of their code that 20, 30, even 40 percent of it is wasted on security, as number 15 eluded to.

Then there's the fact that the more people using it the more popular, the more 'commercial' uses they will recieve. In other words, it is in their best interest to have EVERYONE using their stuff, in non-profit capacities, of course. It is only free-promotion and familiarity for when a 'commercial' enterprise does exist and a software must be chosen.

How do you differentiate? Same way they do now. Same way they do for music licensed in the same manner.

Can we leave this open for a minute. Maybe someone will actual want to answer that, even though the discussion is so OLD and stale. lol
 

MOB ATTACKS --first strike (click to read) 

So, the topic is old, yet you feel the urge to comment on it, and quite a long comment at that. Now, it is my understanding that when a topic is deemed "old", it is because nobody cares. Well, aside from your twenty paragraph comment, I see 7 more under it, in one day. In the business world, they would say, old or not, if it brings attention, it stays. What makes this "not so current" anyway? lol It doesn't matter, though, because you could use the term "kid" and tell me to stop crying, but you put your foot in your mouth. Similar to the fools that wait on hold for 30 minutes to tell a radio host his show sucks. lol

About your fiery response to a "dead" topic, I will again direct you to number 12. If a person was not going to buy the software anyway, how exactly are they taking money out of the programmers pocket? How exactly, and in what world of business, does free promotion, free "training," and widespread familiarity with a product hurt sales? Bear in mind that I did say they should acquire a license before using it in a commercial setting, in other words, to stay in the context of #12, if they were going to pay for it anyway.

In regards to your diatribe: "Do you ever buy multiple copies of a program if you don't have to? Can a program wear out? (yes it can be upgraded, but again, work has to go into that in order to make it even eligible for repurchase). No, not it can't."

I would say programmers not only upgrade their product constantly, as the entire system is designed to keep you on the treadmill lest your set up is deemed unusable, they OFTEN (as is a 'trick of the trade') double up, or offer redundant bundles, basically forcing you to buy crap you don't really need, or already own, in order to get something you do. In fact, I would add that to say there is no "repeat purchasing" or turnaround in the manner you suggest, in the world of computer technology, is asinine. Are you kidding?? They wrote the book on that sort of marketing. Please, tell me what you buy that wears out faster than the version of a software, that isn't labeled 'disposable.'

The automobile industry WISHES they can get away with the acceptable average lifespan on their vehicles that the computer industry does on their product. Computers AND programs are all but disposable. So, I seriously would choose another reason to weep for the poor programmers who are paid a king's ransom on the back-end of a program they wrote years ago, with only minor tweaking every so often, tweaking which was probably available in the first place. People would not pay a red-cent for the type of "upgrades" that come with each version of a program if it didn't render them "out of the game". It's a fine racket they have going, give up a little nibble at a time and keep us chasing the rabbit.

MOB ATTACKS --second strike  (click to read)

Again....when something is "dead" it doesn't get you to stop and talk about it. That means it still works. When a topic is "dead," that means it is solved. This is far from solved. That is akin to saying that the discussion about the morality of abortion is "dead." Or do you mean that you have already discussed it? Well, I'm sorry to intrude, but with a name like "Best Forum Ever" did you not expect company? And did you not think we had an opinion? That is seriously ridiculous. It's exactly like this: Calling your site The greatest place in the world to discuss facts.com, publishing it on the world wide web, then putting up a poll on your site whether or not you agree with the war in Iraq....but when someone new comes to answer it, saying, "Wait a minute, that's old." haha don't mean to laugh, but......

Now, if alternate opinions are not desirable here, I completely understand and will take my infinite wisdom elsewhere, but I would consider changing the forum name. As I have already stated, it's not like you don't have the bandwith.

Now, speaking of so wrong not knowing where to begin, or whatever it was:
Demos being limited is a moot point. Read about the software, understand what it does, and if you need it buy it. Hell, if you're in need of something that costs a couple hundred dollars, you should know before hand what it is and what it does.

lol Excuse me for laughing once again, but are you saying you shouldn't get to test drive a vehicle? You should just read the damn manual and make a decision. Right? I'll give you a pass on that ludicrous comment because I don't think you thought about it.

As far as software companies being large. Yes, many times they are, when they also manufacture hardware. A handful of people write code, and once it's done it's done, and they do a fine job and should be rewarded, again we go back to what I said about licensing software for commercial uses. It works just fine for the musicians who make a nice paycheck selling royalty free music. That is a large company. Often a program is handles by one guy, which is why, in most cases, the support is indeed pretty good, and personal.

The bottom line will always be that philosophically there is nothing wrong with pirating software. I've indicated already, but I shouldn't have to, that free promotion is always good. Software companies will only benefit, using my model of commercial licensing (a model which, again, worked for the music biz forever), if EVERY single college student uses and familiarizes themselves with their platform. That's obvious.

So, what's left is a morality issue, a bunch of self-righteous tattle-tales who want to spread their view of morality to every other glass-house on the block.  

MOB ATTACK- third strike (click to read)

This is what I'm gathering:

1. You are offended by the "Forum with an agenda" line. You know, honestly, I thought twice about that. Probably not a great title, I admit. I'm sorry if it was offensive. Moderator, you have been decent to me, but I am not sure about the spreading love statement. lol Like I said I guess it was the word, "agenda," that's my bad.

2. We're cruising right along here for a dead topic.

3. Many on the forum don't like reading long paragraphs. Again, I apologize, guess I'm a little 'old school.'

4. The argument that stealing is wrong is completely subjective, not because stealing isn't "wrong," although philosophically one can make an argument for, let's say, killing, if it is principally for the betterment of society. We all agree that killing and stealing are close relatives, correct. There is an argument that can be made over what, in fact, stealing is. That was exactly the point of the list in the original post. I chose #12. So, please follow me, instead of calling me an a--hole who writes long paragraphs. If I say that I don't believe piracy is stealing because x,y,z (#12 for starters, or my long ass paragraphs), then a rebuttal of "Stealing is wrong" is not correct. I am assuming many of you are college students. If you have taken logic or debate or even philosophy, you have to agree that is true. Maybe I sound obnoxious to you, and that's cool, but the fact doesn't change.

5. Moderator and those who attempted to hold your ground without the torch and pitchfork. Thank you. I'm just a dude who likes to debate, who came across the best forum ever, which seemed like a place where people shared opinions, liked the topic and the original post, regardless of the date, saw the topic was still open and wanted to comment. For the record, when I posted my original response the date came up as 2009, and I noticed that everyone's posts read the exact same date. So, I took a moment to chime on on a pretty balanced discussion.....and the rest is TBFE history.

If you ever decide to "give a fuck" (as one intelligent poster claimed not to do) and read something so painfully long, instead of just posting a picture of South Park and telling me to f--- off, I'm sure you'll see that I did nothing to offend anyone here....except of course, the questionable title, which was wrong. Having an agenda would be every poster out for the same thing, like coming down on one side of an issue that is consistently split down the middle.


......and long paragraphs doesn't equal trolling, guys.

P.S Oh, yeah, in regards to writing code being harder than I let on, OK, fine, it takes a handful of extremely intelligent people xx hours to do-- Of course, they do get offered feedback daily from other very intelligent programmers from around the globe, who use the software and actually love to give their two-cents, something that engineers in other fields, like for instance, aeronautical or neuroscience or any of those jobs reserved for the intelligentsia do not have the luxury of receiving. 

They also, ironically, spend a good portion of their time on anti-piracy measures, in an effort to maximize the already sufficient profits, instead of understanding all of the points that were laid out in the original, "dead" post and expounded upon by yours truly, taking away from time they could be enhancing their product, which would benefit those who use the software, something that is obviously of less importance. STILL, with that said, I concede that I underestimated what is an AMAZINGLY difficult task. It doesn't change the argument at all.

So, I assume that's it for the counterpoints; thank you for the hospitality. 


The Professor later added, "I love the Internet." 

In Response To A Request Made For Plume To Explain His Concept Of "Religion Equals Politics" (Per FaceBook)

 As you are aware, many times Plume will be drawn into FB discussions that go deeper than what he had for breakfast. Often times his viewpoints are challenged or, at least, questioned. Recently, a good friend of the professor was curious to know what exactly he meant when he compared religion to politics. Here is his reply: (remember, facebook rants are off the cuff and largely unedited. Please excuse any snafus and feel free to leave editor's notes in the comments area.) 

Carla, my dear, I thought you'd never ask. What do I mean by Democrats and Republicans [being the same type of debate as the one over religion that has a father of six remaining incarcerated in order to defend his faith in Jesus Christ.], huh?

Well, I think I covered it pretty thoroughly when I went on a binge about this topic about three months ago. In fact, one title was something like Religion=Government, and that's exactly true. Of course, I am still learning how to express my thoughts clearly and everyday is a new chance to practice, so....

Let me first say that I still think, after all this time, that you are misunderstanding my position on all of this, and I believe it stems from the definition of "religion."

Christianity, the Catholic Church, the Baptist Church, the Church of Latter Day assholes...all of that is religion. They are political institutions, meaning they have constituents, they raise money (called dues or fees or taxes), they hold a specific moral stance on political subjects, they even lobby right alongside the NAACP and the unions and everyone else. In fact, the Catholic Church is a political juggernaut in this country as is the Jewish faith.

The political parallels are not only blatant like that, they not only steer our foreign policy directly (Israel-Palastine), but they are one in the same and always have been!

Back to Israel-Palastine for a moment, if you truly think that conflict is over which son of Abraham is the true heir to the promised land then I have a nice bridge over here in NY, actually a few of them. It's about money, land, power. Do you think the Ayatollas or Sheiks or Mullahs (one of those) are seriously religious. I don't, but they still run a theocracy, which I define as a government that uses the fear of God to breed obedience.

It is the oldest game in the book. Let's take a look at Christianity briefly. How did it start? It didn't start with Jesus. No, Jesus died and rose to heaven...(ok, I have no problem with that. I actually believe he may have lived, and his teachings ARE based on ancient wisdom. There's no doubt about that. That's why I say follow Christ! BUT THE RELIGION...)

OK, so Jesus rose to heaven, and a handful of people witnessed it. I believe it was  Mary Magdeline and Thomas and a few others. The point is that It wasn't on pay per view! Nobody wrote a book about it or a movie or even a drawing. In fact, it wasn't until the 6th century that they figured out what he looked like. (you know, a  white guy with a beard!)

Keep in mind the political landscape at the time. Roman Law ruled all, but as the Empires who conquered this area over and over often did, they allowed the Jews to govern themselves. You remember that's why Jesus was brought before Punctuos Pilate, the Roman governor. The Pharisees, which were a POLITICAL PARTY in the kingdom of Israel (consisting of different tribes), did not like the fact that Jesus was "rallying support" for someone other than their so called God, and like you said, they were as religious as George Bush is. Remember my definition of a theocracy.

But, they had to bring him before the governor first who said, "Do what you want with him." (in not so many words, of course, my guess is as good as Luke's, but we'll get to that)" He just wanted things to settle down.

So, Jesus rose from the dead, and there was some chatter about it, but that's it, UNTIL 5 years later, when Paul of Tarus, who was a Pharisee, a politician and not only a politician, but was known for being a radical, a loose cannon if you will, enters the scene. He somehow gets wind of the story and decides to start a new sect, the Christians!

So, he writes a bunch of letters. We know them as the famous "epistles," the basis of the New Testament, written by a politician, about 20 years after Christ's death. (There are about 15 missing years there between his so called conversion and the actual letters. things like this take planning, especially with no computers. Also, he never met the man, but it's cool because he said he saw a bright light on the road to Demascus that told him to write them, so it's valid, I guess.)

Ok, Paul kicks off the new political party, the Jewish Christians. If you read the accounts of his three missionary journeys, as seen in the book of Acts, it is nothing more than a political campaign, as he travels from city to city to give speeches (also known as sermons), accompanied by his friend and campaignmanager, Barnabus. By the way, St, Paul spent days in jail as a political activist criminal trouble maker (no surprise) before finally being put to death by the Roman emperor Nero who had enough of his hijinks, but the damage to the Jews was done. 

Shortly afterward came the four gospels,, which are written accounts of Jesus' life. The first one was written by Mark, a dude that never met Jesus and wrote his biography two decades after his death, (BUT it was supposedly looked over by Peter so it's valid enough to base a religion on.) Then came Matthew; he was a disciple, so he decided to get in on the action. Mind you, he never thought to write such a thing before, but did so for the sake of the new party (and a nice fee I'm sure).

Luke followed, another political hack who never met Jesus and then John, whose version was written from a different angle than the others and has been called inaccurate, not surprising considering it was written some 50 years after Jesus' death. 

The so called scholars have formed a myriad of different hypotheses as to who wrote which book when and who copied from who; still, as I said, imagine you and I and another person writing a story about someone we never met, twenty years after he died and then arguing whose is more factual. It seems that God should have only commissioned one person to write his son's autobiography.

 At any rate, these aren't even the Gospels you know, as you'll see.

So, now you have four gospels (actually there are several Gospels, but these four made the final cut, 300 years later, as you'll see), and you have Paul's letters (and other literature written by members of the CNC, the Christian National Committee), which were the foundation of the new political party, the Jewish Christians, first headed up by a guy named James, the Christian party's Ralph Nader, if you will.

They enter the fray, along with the old school Pharisees and the Sudicees and the Assholcees, and the Christians have a new, hot thing going on. I mean, shit, a NEW messiah! So, they were hot out of the gate and, thanks to resilient campaigning by the group, picked up steam steadily for 300 years.

Of course, like any other start-up, they had it rough in the beginning. Back then, trouble-makers like Paul and James were killed, not just punished. We call them Martyrs, but you could only expect that the Jews who were still in power did what they can to stop them.
      
The Romans got in on the act because the Christians were trouble-makers. Like any other mini-revolt, they did annoying, you could say terrorist, things to be heard. Well, the Romans didn't like them for that , at first, and they even blamed a great fire in Rome on their anti-establishment activities. The Emperors used to throw them to the lions as an example.

Of course, we are taught that they were thrown to the lions because of their faith! lmao They were thrown to the lions for the EXACT, THE EXACT reason the Kurds were tortured or why any rebel or terrorist is punished when they get caught damaging buildings or blowing up trains. The Christians were looked at as terrorists.

Think how we, the US, a better parallel to Rome, because we are an Empirical nation, choose sides all the time when there is infighting in one of our provinces, I mean allies. Look at, (I don't know, we do it so often)...look at Nicaragua, we looked at the Contras as friendly and the Sandinistas as enemies. or Iran-Iraq..if you recall, Iraq were the "good guys"lol

Well, that was Rome's view on the Christians......UNTIL Constantine, Emperor Constantine. You may know him as the Emperor who "found Jesus."
No, he was the Emperor who decided to switch sides. Because the Christians had grown strong behind the new wave messiah and more powerful than the old Jews, so he started playing ball with them, until eventually, he liked the format so much, Rome decided to make Christianity the LAW or the political party or the religion or the law or the political party or the religion, all the same, are you getting that? of the newly named HOLY Roman Empire!!!

Of course, they had to work out some kinks. So, they had a meeting, and this is literal. They literally had a meeting!

THE COUNSEL OF NICEA 325AD, where the Romans got together with some representatives from each of their provinces and picked and chose exactly what they wanted in their new law book, I mean Holy scriptures. They took the epistles (Paul's bullshit letters), they took the four gospels (out of a shitload), they worked out the Creed. you know the NICEAN CREED, that all the parishioners stand up and chant at mass. 

They went over that word by word. They even decided how the mass would go.
They decided what rules were inportant, what rules were to be stressed. Basically, whatever the Roman Senate thought was important, Jesus thought was important.

Then, of course, the Romans had to throw some of their own tradition in there, actually a lot. Much of the story of Jesus is based on Pagan ritual and belief, which was the ancient Roman religion of course. By this time it was just tradition, but haven't you ever wondered where the fuck a rabbit hiding eggs comes from on Jesus resurrection or a christmas tree and shit? lol (I believe the santa clause thing was thrown in later.) 

See that's the thing. That is just the beginning. This thing has been the rule book for 2 millenia now!! The bible you read today is this book written by political activists who didn't know Jesus, generations after him, then edited 3 centuries later by a Roman council, then edited and amended by Roman Emperors, English Kings, and yes, US Presidents (such as Jefferson) for 2,000 years!!! lmao

I mean, really Carla. I'm not making this up.

Oh, and as far as the analogy to your story featuring Muslims vs. Chrisstian, Islam is the exact same thing. When Christianity began to spread, it spread across the middle East, to Egypt and Syria...etc This is the area we speak of when we speak of that time.

Anyway, about 200 years after the Romans dressed up their new constitution, it was working so well, that a guy named Muhammad, in Mecca, did the same thing our friend Paul did.

It was the unifying rule of the Arab world and it made for a great backdrop for the many, many conflicts that were to come, as the Muslims became the great Ottoman Empire and the Romans split and became the Holy Bystantine Empire and they fought forever, through the crusades, and all the way up to modern times, to that poor lost soul whole sold his family out for nothing!

BUT, it made for great motivation. I mean when you read Bystantine literature denouncing Islam, calling Muhammad a false and deceitful prophet.... That book, put together in Nicea over lunch and cocktails, holds enough weight that people will kill and die and kill and die for what is written in it.

People like this psychopath on my wall would be one! (The subject leading to the religion=government comment was concerning a website had stumbled upon ) Now, it just wouldn't have the gravity if it were only political parties, but make no mistake, that is EXACTLY WHAT IT IS!!!(A Facebook
 

So, yeah, that's what I mean by that, Carla.

Gotta run